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Post by Patriot on Apr 13, 2022 20:11:31 GMT -6
LMAO, what kind of ending was that Tony?
Imagine hyping up an overrun, doing the lights out thing, and then debuting generic giant Indian heel.
Joke's on me for expecting something better, like say Cesaro.
That was a very WWE ending and deserves to be crapped all over like it would be in WWE.
Also, not Dynamite related, but they've done a swell job of making Battle of the Belts being a complete afterthought. When the specials were first announced, I thought they'd be cool Clash of the Champion type big shows. Instead they do the big matches on Dynamite or Rampage, and waste the special. Makes no sense. They happen a few times a year, not every week, make them a big deal.
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Post by Jules on Apr 27, 2022 12:40:08 GMT -6
What's going on with AEW's booking of Bryan Danielson?
He had about a month where he was doing a great quasi-heel run and after having spectacular matches and for the past few months it seems they have just shoved him in random six man tags. Unless he's hurt and this is just a way of keeping him on TV, it doesn't really make any sense to me.
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Post by Patriot on Jun 16, 2022 20:31:06 GMT -6
Last night's Dynamite had 761,000 viewers.
Yes, there's no Punk, Omega, MJF or Danielson at the moment. Wouldn't matter anyway.
Forbidden Door will be a great in-ring PPV. However, I think Tony has to be learning that not nearly as many Americans care about NJPW as he seems to think they do. And you can't keep booking a show for Internet fans.
The announcers can sell Will Ospreay as a major player all they want, but the majority of American fans don't know him nor have a reason to care about him or anything he's involved with.
Tony likes to think himself a visionary and pretend that his so-called forbidden door is original and innovative, but fact is people didn't care when WCW did it either. It's not a draw. It sold tickets, so it'll have a good gate and that's great. But it's not going to sell a lot of PPV's.
Besides that, I thought Dynamite was pretty weak last night (and has been for the past few weeks). Build to Forbidden Door has been bad. Ospreay/Harwood was great, the main event and turn was fun, but the rest of the show sucked.
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Post by currentbigthing on Jul 11, 2022 22:40:33 GMT -6
Wrestling in general has been almost universally bad for such a long time. As far as WWE goes, I hear Paul E is still at least as good as he ever was, but it’s not worth it to me to stick around through the other absolute dog shit until he shows up. More on topic, as pertains to AEW, I can watch FTR matches until the cows come home, and I can’t imagine I’m anywhere close to alone in that, but every match that doesn’t feature them, Danielson, or CM Punk is an unwatchable gymnastics floor exercise featuring interchangeable 5’6”, 160-pound Starbucks baristas.
I watched the film the other day of when Okada debuted and really didn’t know what to think— the crowd was booing Adam Page as he set up and delivered his finish, and the booing got louder as the referee counted the pinfall, so I concluded he must have switched heel at some point over the last several months since last I checked their show out. After the match (as you all probably know), Adam Cole came out looking like he’d arrived straight from high school gym class, brought a guy with him the announcer told me was called Jay White and they went and kicked Adam Page in the nuts and put boots to him, which is something you usually see heels do to a babyface.
It was at this point that I was lost because it wasn’t just that the crowd was booing Page earlier, he was behaving… villainously, I suppose? While he was setting up his slingshot deal, he was inviting the boos with his body language, his looking back at the crowd over his shoulder before going ahead with his finish as of to say “I’m doing this whether you like it or not”— things like that. So how much heat could Adam Cole and his friend Jay White really get on him after that? Okada got a pretty good reaction when he joined the fray, but why is he helping Adam Page again?
It never used to be this hard for me to give a shit about wrestling. And I don’t think it’s because I’m turning 40 tomorrow (yeah, yeah, shameless birthday plug). I remember when I was in middle and high school watching WCW over at my friend Carl’s house (that was more of a WCW than WWF household) and Carl’s dad was just as into what was on as we were. I remember vividly one of the times Hogan got a little bit of comeuppance at the hands of WCW guys and Carl’s dad was the one asking “hey, where were the outsiders?” and he was older then than I am now for sure.
I mean, did you guys see what Jordynne Grace tweeted the other day about her thinking that Benoit, as a wrestler, couldn’t “hang” with the best wrestlers of today because he wouldn’t be able to “remember matches”? Gail Kim shut her down and all, but my concern is deeper than the opinion itself.
Of course Benoit the wrestler could work circles around anybody “working” today, but what bothers me more is her stated criterion that in order to be a top wrestler you have to remember your entire choreographed match, which means you have to have an entirely choreographed match, which, by and large, isn’t what wrestling is supposed to be.
I know Savage did that with his match with Steamboat at WrestleMania III, but my understanding is that he did that because he knew they were only getting like 14 minutes and thought they had a chance to steal the show, but (in his mind) only if they were perfect. My understanding is also that WMIII was at most one of very few times he did that. I’m pretty sure every story kind of on the subject was more like the one DDP tells about Arn asking Savage what he wants to do that night and Savage replying “You know, I think I want to take the Diamond Cutter” and that was what they went out there with.
Kevin Nash warned us all of the vanilla midgets.
We should have heeded that shit.
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Post by Jules on Jul 13, 2022 1:08:58 GMT -6
Good to see ya CBT.
Jordynne Grace saying anything about Benoit as a wrestler is like me saying picasso couldn't paint. She ain't qualified to have an opinion on the matter---with the normal admission that may he rot in piss for what he did to that poor child and his wife.
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Post by currentbigthing on Jul 15, 2022 1:25:08 GMT -6
Daniel was married?
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Post by Jules on Jul 17, 2022 15:53:18 GMT -6
Daniel was married? Too soon.
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Post by Jules on Sept 6, 2022 7:22:11 GMT -6
So I will assume everyone saw the AEW media scrum and fallout thus far from the CM Punk comments.
If this all isn't a big work somehow (and kudos if it is) this is an all time embarrassing moment for any wrestling company. Punk just ripped the whole company a new one with the boss sitting emasculated right next to him... calling Page an empty headed dumb**** and then apparently has a fight backstage with all three of the remaining EVPS.
Wow.
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Post by Patriot on Sept 6, 2022 8:53:32 GMT -6
Punk needs to go.
Guy has been a problem everywhere he's been. Of course, he couldn't exactly do stuff like that in WWE because he a boss that acted like it and wouldn't tolerate it, but also shared a lockerroom with a bunch of guys who also wouldn't tolerate it.
Tony came out of that looking like a little bitch. Reminds me of the dorky boy in Indian in the Cupboard.
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Post by Jules on Sept 6, 2022 13:31:32 GMT -6
Punk needs to go. Guy has been a problem everywhere he's been. Of course, he couldn't exactly do stuff like that in WWE because he a boss that acted like it and wouldn't tolerate it, but also shared a lockerroom with a bunch of guys who also wouldn't tolerate it. Tony came out of that looking like a little bitch. Reminds me of the dorky boy in Indian in the Cupboard. For whatever his faults were, and there were many, no one would have ever done to Vince McMahon what Phil Brooks did to Tony Khan at that press conference. I remain hopeful that this was either a worked shoot, or if not, they can come together to work. In my mind, Punk vs Omega has always been the match that needed to happen when Punk was first signed. Right now we are either as close to that happening or as far away from it happened as possible and I can't say for sure which is which. If this was a total shoot---then this to me is kind of a Will Smith smacking Chris Rock moment for CM Punk. It overshadowed what was a great show, and the return of MJF etc... and now all anyone can talk about is the post-show BS. If it's part of a bigger story, then I will reserve my thoughts. If this was Punk just "being Punk" then though, yeah, not a good look at all.
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Post by Patriot on Sept 7, 2022 9:12:43 GMT -6
All signs point to it being a case of Punk being Punk.
Punk isn't the draw he thinks he is, and therefore isn't worth the headache.
If I were an AEW wrestler, I'd be looking at Tony with zero respect and already knowing I'm out as soon as the contract expires. Money mark playing with his action figures wants to be friends with the cool figure, has no control over his talent. Should've shot Punk down the moment he unprompted started talking about Colt. Instead, he sat there looking like a deer in the headlights.
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Post by Sandman on Sept 7, 2022 17:37:31 GMT -6
Interesting that there were reports out fairly quickly that most parties had already been suspended, but nothing about Punk and Steel. I have to believe Steel is absolutely fired and possibly facing legal consequences based on throwing a chair and biting. Punk is injured(again) so he'll be out for a while anyway. Strip him of the belt and give us that Moxley/MJF rematch at Grand Slam that we should have gotten after Mox won with the Paradigm Shift behind the refs back after it had been banned for their original match.
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Post by Jules on Oct 7, 2022 20:58:28 GMT -6
And now there's a fight with Andrade punching out Sammy after they traded mean tweets to each other.
AEW is out of control.
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Post by Sandman on Oct 7, 2022 22:53:34 GMT -6
It is.
And seriously, how much drama is Sammy gonna be in the middle of?
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Post by Jules on Oct 9, 2022 15:27:33 GMT -6
It is. And seriously, how much drama is Sammy gonna be in the middle of? Yeah, says he wants to rape Sasha (even jokingly, extremely not cool and stupid to say) gets himself slapped by Kingston and then this mess. If he didn't catch Tony Khan engaged in a compromising position, his continued wrist slaps just baffles me.
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Post by Patriot on Oct 10, 2022 21:52:47 GMT -6
A current NJPW champion is back on RAW, NJPW retweeting a WWE tweet... I look forward to Tony's cocaine induced ranting about it.
As for AEW's current woes, Tony Khan is basically Eric Bischoff without a ceiling above him. The only positive is that he doesn't book himself on the show (yet) in any meaningful manner.
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Post by Jules on Oct 17, 2022 0:49:33 GMT -6
The Ariel Helwani/TK dust up was real interesting. TK went on expecting to do a puff interview and Ariel called him out on it and heads are exploding all over twitter.
The Good Brothers, I'm neither high or low on them. They have suffered serial mis-use but they were never over to a massive degree anywhere I've seen them including NJPW except as bodies in the Bullet Club, which is well past its sell by date. They were jobbed out by the WWE, then basically used as lackeys by Omega and the Bucks and then cast off into the abyss of TNA and now back in WWE to hang out with AJ because it sorta fits his thing with Balor, who is now fueding simultaneously with AJ, Edge, Rey Mysterio and the 1985 Denver Broncoes.
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Post by Patriot on May 18, 2023 21:17:15 GMT -6
Remember when Tony Khan used to boast on Twitter about the viewers Dynamite got, or when NXT would beat them in viewership, the almighty demo?
LMAO, what a clown.
Meanwhile, viewership down from last week again, 814,000 viewers. Demo down as well, 0.28.
But the guy who booked it thought it was great, and so did Cagematch voters.
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Post by Sandman on May 19, 2023 16:44:35 GMT -6
It would really behoove him to mostly just STFU. Wanna thank folks for watching, fine. Wanna thank the people that came to the show, no problem. But leave ratings and total viewers alone unless you actually hit a significant total...and no one gives a shit about a fan vote on Cageside.
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Post by Jules on May 25, 2023 7:17:25 GMT -6
I'm not saying it would fix all of AEW's problems, but imagine a world where for the past four years of AEW that TK was only just a name that you knew was the money man behind all of this and he was never involved in any public relations or on air stuff and instead you had someone in position as the CEO or CFO or whatever label, who could be the figure head and not look like a 12 year old on coke.
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